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fooled
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Mar 2006 03:12    Post subject: How do I know if it is a scam? Reply with quote

I maybe a victim of a love scam. I do I know if a person is for real or a fake. Is there some kind of data base we can run names through to be sure?
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Mar 2006 14:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
i'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately there are no complete lists that i know of, but they wouldn't do much good anyway, since it only takes a few minutes to set up a new email account with a new name on a freemailer like yahoo.
You should rather look for the signs:

- he/she contacted you out of the blue via email

- the other persons asks you to send money

- their reply look scripted and don't really answer/reference what was sent to them (mainly for the first few replies, after the scammer has a victim on the hook he/she spends more time for the emails)

- the other persons asks you to send money

- details in their story are not 100% coherent

- the other persons asks you to send money

- something unexpected (mother in hospital etc) happens and the other person urgently needs money

- the other persons asks you to send money

well, i think you can get the idea.
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Mar 2006 16:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fooled, it would be useful if you could post one of their emails here (with the full headers - this will tell us which country the email comes from). But, as Captain Igloo has said, if they ask you for money at all it's a scam.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Mar 2006 16:35    Post subject: Thanks for advice Reply with quote

I have several emails I could post from my yahoo email and aol. The following emails are from my yahoo account, I can not get the headers copied from my aol account, any suggestions let me know.



From: "stephen scott" <stephensct@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: amulligan1@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: payment
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:12:16 +0000

Dear madam,

Can you confirm to me your full name that will come on the payment ,
address and correct telephone no.that you can be reach at any time.

Sincerely yours,

Stephen Scott.

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Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:29:38 -0800 (PST)
From: "Eddie Says" <edd_yank04@yahoo.com> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
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Subject: Re:
To: "angel mulligan" <amulligan1@yahoo.com>

Hey Hun,

Been Very ill....Love Ya

Eddie

angel mulligan <amulligan1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Babe,
Are you still hanging in there? Having seen you online or are you just not talking to me anymore? Just want to make sure you are ok.



Angel Marie
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:54:33 -0800 (PST)
From: "Ronald C. White" <cwhite_101@yahoo.com> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
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Subject: I await ur response ASAP.
To: "angel mulligan" <amulligan1@yahoo.com>

Hello,
Hun. I called my client today in usa owing me some funds and he promised me to send a check today via Electronic check(Qchex) you can visit the site www.qchex.com, qchex is faster, safer, reliable and most convinent way to recieve check.
I am not in the State now and I can not be able to cash it over here so I ordered him to send the fund directly to you and he has accepted to send you all the money he is owing me via electronic check(Qchex),so i wanted to confirm from you if you can help me cash this check??
Furthermore, I also i asked him how you will go about it and he said you are to purchase a check paper and magnectic versa
ink at any shopping mall or stationery to have it print out (the check paper and magnectic versa ink is available at Stationery and Shopping mall at t the rate of $20 each, both cost $40).
So, after you have done the print out proceed to any cashing point to cash it or at your bank. The funds my client is owing me is $3000 and he will be sending all the amount payable to you on your name so kindly deduct $400 for the money spent on the printing of the check and deduct all western union charges.The remaining funds will be send to the ticketing agent via western union money transfer.Get back to me ASAP and i hope to read from you soon so we can proceed on.
Thanks once again...
Ron.



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These emails are from three different people supposedly, let me know what you think, because it is so hard not to fall into the trap.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Mar 2006 17:14    Post subject: headers from email Reply with quote

sorry, i just figured out what you meant by the headers. I figured it out how to get the headers from aol, but not yahoo yet. sorry.



EMAIL 1

Return-Path: <stscott1231@hotmail.com>
Received: from rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (rly-yd02.mail.aol.com [172.18.141.66]) by air-yd03.mail.aol.com (v108_r3.6) with ESMTP id MAILINYD31-1fa442bf1662f5; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:00:14 -0500
Received: from hotmail.com (bay22-f13.bay22.hotmail.com [64.4.16.63]) by rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (v108_r3.6) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYD26-1fa442bf1662f5; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:55:34 -0500
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:55:34 -0800
Message-ID: <BAY22-F13EFB2ABB2BAF969DB0FAFB6D10@phx.gbl>
Received: from 213.255.201.14 by by22fd.bay22.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:55:30 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [213.255.201.14]
X-Originating-Email: [stscott1231@hotmail.com]
X-Sender: stscott1231@hotmail.com
From: "STEPHEN SCOTT" <stscott1231@hotmail.com>
To: <removed to protect you from spambots - Capt. Igloo>
Subject: Send the funds today
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:55:30 +0000
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2006 14:55:34.0117 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF4AD150:01C65409]
X-AOL-IP: 64.4.16.63
X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:417724749:12348031
X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0

EMAIL 2
Return-Path: <cwhite_101@yahoo.com>
Received: from rly-yi03.mx.aol.com (rly-yi03.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.131]) by air-yi01.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINYI13-7c044286d05335; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:54:02 -0500
Received: from web37114.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37114.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.116]) by rly-yi03.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYI38-7c044286d05335; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:53:57 -0500
Received: (qmail 56679 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Mar 2006 22:53:56 -0000
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding;
b=Zj11q94tInUg4Zb/WIZI4Mz4RLqoPV6rZkqQczuf+8vqhx4SbsJWc0NCt7dWHKdXphGE7Lj4+87klD90ickuLyhtnl3RxYYf3hCmv+XbJqdmWzNfu4gvi/nU4FNU9jiX7hvtd5b633ydu0AJKCaWNH/3UODTcxZNl4VnWuO4mKM= ;
Message-ID: <20060327225356.56677.qmail@web37114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Received: from [196.207.1.214] by web37114.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:53:56 PST
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:53:56 -0800 (PST)
From: "Ronald C. White" <cwhite_101@yahoo.com>
Subject: am online now
To: <removed to protect you from spambots - Capt. Igloo>
In-Reply-To: <35b.a0d774.31581f27@aol.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-922694469-1143500036=:54962"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-AOL-IP: 209.191.85.116
X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:476209221:14495514
X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 3


EMAIL 3
Return-Path: <adigundare1@yahoo.com>
Received: from rly-yg05.mx.aol.com (rly-yg05.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.83]) by air-yg01.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINYG11-2914427c5fb2fd; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:01:28 -0500
Received: from web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.119]) by rly-yg05.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYG57-2914427c5fb2fd; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:01:15 -0500
Received: (qmail 11640 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Mar 2006 11:01:15 -0000
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding;
b=3E7nuxp4Pfm9hM6+0Bj8zFaldf2OB3L3WQziU71X0N3V2Q59H05zBYwmDo6BxSFcgnq6XnY0fkjocVBYwwZtmE32vJlkzioiKX1lUzmRzH1F5O+C50733UhphqGxmyN0Y9CeRsIVq+sYeLXUMK+ZTd4P0X1Mi4YbooCRECCsxjY= ;
Message-ID: <20060327110115.11638.qmail@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Received: from [81.199.53.195] by web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:01:15 PST
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:01:15 -0800 (PST)
From: adigun dare <adigundare1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Urgent Reply Is Needed
To: <removed to protect you from spambots - Capt. Igloo>
In-Reply-To: <307.110ef09.315709ac@aol.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-452604263-1143457275=:8629"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-AOL-IP: 68.142.198.119
X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:359417723:14495514
X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 3


THESE ARE SUPPOSEDLY FROM THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL THE ORIGIN. THANKS.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Mar 2006 18:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

They all appear to be from Nigeria.
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