SCAMPATROL Forum Index SCAMPATROL
Working to protect
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Scammers posing as scampatrol *RESOLVED - WARNING LEGIT*

 
Post new topic   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    SCAMPATROL Forum Index -> IS THIS A SCAM?
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Unsolicited Guest
Guest





PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2005 01:50    Post subject: Scammers posing as scampatrol *RESOLVED - WARNING LEGIT* Reply with quote

Typical scam letter:

Subject line asks for reply.

Using free email service claiming to be an official of an organization that operates their own email server.

Demand for secrecy with dire consequences if demands are not met.

Just how low will these scammers go?

Quote:


X-Apparently-To: <email address removed> via <IP address removed>; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:14:40 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [<IP address removed>]
Return-Path: <email address removed>
Authentication-Results: mta180.mail.re2.yahoo.com from=f-m.fm; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from <IP address removed> (EHLO out3.smtp.messagingengine.com) (<IP address removed>) by mta180.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:14:40 -0700
Received: from web3.messagingengine.com (web3.internal [<IP address removed>]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9511ACC1384 for <email address removed>; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 05:14:39 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by web3.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id D2A7EEE6; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 05:14:39 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <1121850879.7143.238837824@webmail.messagingengine.com>
X-Sasl-Enc: QV8Vfeze1ZyI62xupxWO4v3O3HebwhL8j9bl/HbK8jd2 1121850879
From: "Jonas Anderson" <email address removed> Add to Address Book
To: <email address removed>
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.5 (F2.73; T1.001; A1.64; B3.05; Q3.03)
Subject: Scam warning - Please read and reply
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:14:39 -0700
Content-Length: 2680


YOU ARE CORRESPONDING WITH A CRIMINAL!
FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION, PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE LETTER!

Mr Xxxx Xxxxx,

You don`t know me, but I need to warn you about something,
you may also receive warning emails from others in our
network. You are receiving this email because our informers
have identified you as the potential victim of a Nigerian
419 advance fee fraud scam.

I understand that you have been communicating with someone
using this name and email address:
Xxxxxxx Xxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com

These are Nigerian 419 Advance Fee Fraud scammers, DO NOT
send this person any of your money, DO NOT give them any of
your personal details such as BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS, HOME
TELEPHONE NUMBERS, HOME ADDRESS and, under no circumstances,
NEVER travel to meet the scammers. The scammers are
extremely dangerous people, many victims have been murdered
and many more have been kidnapped and held to ransom by
these 419 scammers. Please don`t become another victim.

In case you did give them your data, don`t worry. After you
break the contact, they usually only write back/call you two
or three times and then leave you alone. When they call you
can just say you're not interested anymore. You should
contact your bank for security reasons though if you gave
them your bank data.

Warning Signs: How to tell when you are being scammed

# You have been asked to keep this deal a secret.

# You have been asked to supply sensitive personal
information (like bank account numbers, social security
number, etc.) or personal documents (passport, driver`s
license).

# You have received official-looking documents by email.

# You are being asked to pay a sum of money up-front to
release documents, trunk boxes, lottery-wins, an
inheritance, etc.. Additional fees and costs seem to
materialize.

# You have been referred by email to a security company,
banker, agent or barrister who is in control of these goods,
and claims to be releasing them to you.

# Your contact writes in broken English or disjointed
sentences, sometimes changing writing styles from CAPITALS
to lowercase text.

# Your contact pleads or threatens you to send money, often
concocting a story about selling jewelry, mortgaging
property, or claiming sudden illness.

How A Typical Nigerian 419 Scam Works

This fraud typically originates with the scam operator
soliciting your assistance to move millions of dollars from
Africa to a different continent. You may be told that this
money belongs to you as the next of kin of a deceased person
who stashed the money away shortly before they died. Quite
often this fictitious sum of money will supposedly be
deposited with a fake online bank or security company.

There are stories around claiming you won several millions
in a lottery and you are to pay release fees or similiar.
You will eventually be asked to pay fees ranging from a few
hundred dollars to several thousand dollars for
administration fees, storage fees, transportation costs,
clearance documents, Lawyers` fees etc. etc.

In the final stages of the scam you will again be asked for
tens of thousands of dollars, to supposedly pay for
government taxes, insurance documents, anti-terrorist
documents, or generally some other excuse for you to pay a
lot of money, the fees list is never ending. Note that all
parties introduced by the person originally soliciting your
help, the "Lawyers", the "Online Bank", the"Security
Company" etc., are all part of the scam team.

Sometimes you will be asked to travel to an African country
(usually places like Abidjan, South Africa, Cote d`Ivoire,
Ibadan, Nigeria, Togo) or to Europe (mostly Amsterdam &
London, but with some scams to locations in Spain or other
countries) to claim the money. Many scam victims who have
traveled abroad have been kidnapped and, in numerous cases,
victims have been murdered.

The scam artist may send you a counterfeit cashier`s cheque
and ask you to wire some of that money to a third party by
Western Union, DON`T SEND ANY MONEY. If you receive a
cheque, be advised that this is certainly
counterfeit/stolen. If you cash it, YOU are liable to be
arrested for fraud.

Be advised that these scammers are extremely dangerous
people and we advise you to cease contact immediately.

We ask you not to contact the scammer after we warn you
about them. We have our informers in the area where the
scammers are who`s lives will be put at risk if they are
found by the scammers to be passing on information regarding
the scammers` victims and potential victims.

So please do not contact the scammer saying you have been
warned, this will put our informants lives at risk

Thank you for taking the time to read this, please tell your
friends about Nigerian 419 scams, as education is the only
true way to stop these scammers.

If you have any questions regarding the information
contained in this letter, please send me an e-mail or visit
www.scampatrol.org and post in the forums there.

For more information on 419 scams, please visit one of the
following websites:
http://www.419legal.org
http://www.secretservice.gov/alert419.shtml
http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/419.htm

Jonas Anderson,
ScamPatrol
www.scampatrol.org

Back to top
Q
Guest





PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2005 02:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's actually a geninue scampatrol warning.

As this is a geninue email I've removed the email addresses and IP addresses from the post.
Back to top
Daneel_Oliwav
Forum Member


Joined: 07 Jul 2005, 14:53
Posts: 22
Location: Sweden

PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2005 05:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

That warning was mine.

Why would a scammer ask you to go post at scampatrol.org like the letter does?

I was promised a scampatrol.org address but I haven't got it yet, sorry about that.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
TarynK
Victim Support


Joined: 23 Jan 2005, 7:27
Posts: 231
Location: Australia +10 or so

PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2005 05:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

The person who is able to make the scampatrol email addresses is on holidays. I have put the request in for it but it won't be processed until they return.

Also, sometimes if we do not get a response from someone with a scampatrol.org email address, we might try sending an email from a "free" account as sometimes our email may not get through for whatever reasons.

Regards,
Taryn Kellaher
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
frazzle
**BANNED**


Joined: 21 Jun 2005, 22:05
Posts: 27
Location: Enn Zedd

PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2005 09:00    Post subject: Re: Scammers posing as scampatrol Reply with quote

Unsolicited Guest wrote:
Typical scam letter:

Subject line asks for reply.

Using free email service claiming to be an official of an organization that operates their own email server.

Demand for secrecy with dire consequences if demands are not met.

Just how low will these scammers go?




Surprised Bizarre!

I see no demand for secrecy. I see no threats of dire consequences.

I suspect a troll.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Daneel_Oliwav
Forum Member


Joined: 07 Jul 2005, 14:53
Posts: 22
Location: Sweden

PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2005 09:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he means the parts where he's asked not to forward the letter to the scammers, and where it warns about people getting killed in relation to the scams. He's no troll, just suspicious.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Q
Guest





PostPosted: Fri 22 Jul 2005 09:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we have a troll here. Trolls spam the board with mindless junk, there is no evidence of this happening here.

All we have here is someone who is a little suspicous of the email he/she has received from us.

@Unsolicited Guest: you are correct in your assumption that scammers have previously posed as victim warners from scampatrol and they may also possibly do so again in the future. There was main difference though with those emails and the email from us you have posted above was the request of fees and the promise to retrieve funds lost by the victim. We make no such promises and NEVER ask for fees or even donations!

To avoid this thread turning into a flaming fest I will turn out the lights on the way out. If you want to add to this topic please PM me.
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    SCAMPATROL Forum Index -> IS THIS A SCAM? All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group