SCAMPATROL

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

I have been the victim of these thieves. They sell fake turnkey websites and have many different domain names.........www.Automaticwebs.com

1. best-site-host.com
2. autowebsites.us
3. dailycashsites.com
4. turnkeyprofitssites.com
5. hotwebsites.com
6. lilhost.com
7. best-site-hosting.com
8. profits-sites.com
9. automaticwebs.com

Murdockh · Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2005 08:05 Post subject:

Like I said at 419eater.com, could you post some more information as to how you have been scammed by them, and what part of their business you think is fraudulent?
If it really is illegal, we'll do what we can to get the sites shut down, of course, though with this kind of thing, it's apt to take some time unless they're on a hoster we know.

As much information as possible is what we need right now, in order to assess what we can do. Smile

-M-

Captain Igloo · Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2005 09:39 Post subject:

I've had a quick look and they look extremely fishy. These company seem to sell ready made websites and "guarantee" yearly profits that are much hgher than the initial purchase price (why don't they just keep them themselves then?). The also don't offer a physical address on their pages.

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

I have all communication with them via email. They offer a turnkey website business 48 hour trial, free with fake hit and sales stats, if you subscribe for it with paypal., stormpay, or egold. After 48 hours you are charged a $50 weekly fee. Meantime sales are really looking great. Oh, they say they sell these sites off because they don't make $1000 per day that they want. After this, they tell you, you can buy the site outright for $600 and save the $50 weekly fee. After buying the site, I noticed it was still for sale. When I inquired about this I got no response. They also told me, after purchase, I could chnge payout terms to anything I like. Their terms are 90 day payout. So, I ask for wekly. I am told 30 days is best they can do. So much for anything I want.

Now they offer me an affiliate site free to promote their websites and lure more victims. To do this you have to set up merchant accounts with paypal, stormpay and egold. As soon as you do this sales and real money start coming into your accounts. A couple thousand per day. But, at the same time your affiliate account balance is getting more negative until sales are halted.

At this time you are sent an email telling you to fund your account. This can only be done through egold or Western Union money transfer to Mexico. You are told a check for your original site is automated and can not be released until account is fully funded. As soon as it is funded sales start piling up again.

Now, as soon as everyone that bought a site from you catches on, they start making claims against you with paypal etc. Of course their money has gone to Mexico and I am left holding the bag with my paypal account getting more in debt every day.

I have had paypal freeze my account, but they will do nothing about claims coming in. And this scam company really has no traceable involvement.

Is this enough info?

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

This is the link to stats. The password for eveyone is tracker. If you enter this you can see them.

http://70.85.227.187/biker88/tracker.php?viewstats=y

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

You have received another $43 USD in profits from your website which is located
at http://70.85.227.187/biker88. You may view your updated statistics at
http://70.85.227.187/biker88/tracker.php?viewstats=y

Don't want to pay the weekly subscription fee for this website? Purchasing a
website outright for $600 will immediately increase your profits, allow you to
change your payout terms, and eliminate the need to pay a weekly subscription
fee. To buy a website outright please visit http://70.85.227.179/201 and click
on the second column of PayPal buttons, the second column of StormPay buttons,
or any of the e-Gold payment buttons.

Want to change your payout terms? If you have an existing website and want to
change your payout terms you must purchase the website outright for $600. After
making payment you must mention on the Thank You page form in the Comments field
that you have purchased your existing website outright. You must use the Thank
You page to submit your desired payout details. You can request any payout terms
you like.

Please visit http://70.85.227.179/members/help/faq/ to read our Frequently Asked
Questions page. The FAQ page will answer almost all of your questions. If you do
not find the answer you are looking for please remember to use the search
feature. If you have completely read all of the answers and your question is
definitely not answered on the FAQ page please contact us via email.

Upgrading your affiliate level increases your profits on each sale. You can
upgrade at http://www.MembersAccount.com

If you wish to increase the number of visitors, sales, and profits you receive
each day you can purchase additional promotion at http://www.MembersAccount.com.
Click on the Wholesale Promotional Services link to view the services we offer.
We recommend any promotional package that includes 100,000 guaranteed unique
visitors. A good choice is the "100000 Guaranteed Unique Visitors" package. An
even better choice is the "100000 Guaranteed Unique Visitors and 100000 Search
Engines" package. This is very cheap, extremely effective, and will result in a
ton of sales and profits for you.

Please visit http://70.85.227.179/hosting.php to activate your hosting account
for this website today.

Happy with the results of your website? Want to earn even more by promoting our
websites? You can get started at
http://www.MembersAccounts.com/nocostwebsites.php

Affiliate Program and Reseller Program

We have created a referral program specifically for our existing customers. This
program allows you to generate a large and easy income for yourself by promoting
our websites. You have already been signed up and your account has been
activated. You can start generating profits for yourself right this minute. To
get started simply log in to your account at http://www.MembersAccount.com and
click on the Help Pages "Sell our websites" link. After that you should read the
"Create and use links" page as well as the "Sell using online auctions" page for
some additional information.

You may promote both our 'regular' websites and our 'no cost' websites. Regular
websites are sold for a single one time fee. No cost websites cost nothing to
try and then require a weekly subscription fee. Both of these referral programs
are very profitable for our affiliates and resellers.

Want to make even more money with no work on your part? No problem. Just send us
an email asking us to make you a reseller. We will give you a Reseller website,
a domain name, guaranteed visitors, sales, and profits, all at no cost to you.
It's all yours just for asking. To become a reseller simply contact us and ask
for your no cost Reseller website.

Contact customer service if you do not want to receive this notification email
every time a sale is made.

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

Account biker88 was credited with $2200. New
affiliate account balance is now $-6862.65

Please complete another payment today to bring your affiliate account up
to $0 or higher. Customer payments can then begin arriving in your payment
processing accounts and you can once again begin generating profits. If
you fully fund your account within 12 hours we will give you an additional
20% bonus credit.

Please visit http://70.85.227.179/members/help/faq/ to read our Frequently
Asked Questions page. The FAQ page will answer almost all of your
questions. If you do not find the answer you are looking for please
remember to use the search feature. If you have completely read all of the
answers and your question is definitely not answered on the FAQ page
please contact us via email.

Laura Collins

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

This affiliate account isn't bringing in enough money, fast enough, or I
can not transfer money fast enough, to fund account. I have had to put
out my own money. I would like to cancel affiliate account.

----- You are a new Partner and have no history with us so you may not
make as much profit the first one or two times you fund your affiliate
account. This is because we limit the number of transactions you receive
and you are also funding your affiliate account with smaller amounts of
money. This means you are not given as much bonus credit at the time of
funding. After you have received more customer payments and funded your
affiliate account a few times you will automatically begin receiving more
customer payments and larger transactions. This will result in larger
sales, larger bonus funding credits, and much higher profits for you. It
does get much easier after you have funded your affiliate account a few
times Smile

Please visit http://70.85.227.179/members/help/faq/ to read our Frequently
Asked Questions page. The FAQ page will answer almost all of your
questions. If you do not find the answer you are looking for please
remember to use the search feature. If you have completely read all of the
answers and your question is definitely not answered on the FAQ page
please contact us via email.

Laura Collins

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

Western Union wants cash ONLY. Will not accept phone transfers with debit
card or credit card. And will not allow more than $2000.00 limit per month
online.

----- That is also normal. Almost all of our Partners make their payments
in person in cash. It might seem like a waste of time right now but as
soon as you start making $750 per day in profits you might feel better
about visiting the Western Union office every day Smile

Please visit http://70.85.227.179/members/help/faq/ to read our Frequently
Asked Questions page. The FAQ page will answer almost all of your
questions. If you do not find the answer you are looking for please
remember to use the search feature. If you have completely read all of the
answers and your question is definitely not answered on the FAQ page
please contact us via email.

Laura Collins

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

There are two claims in paypal that say they are waiting for my response
and funds are held up and being subtracted from my account.
----- Please fully fund your affiliate account today so we can provide you
with the tracking information you require.

Please visit http://70.85.227.179/members/help/faq/ to read our Frequently
Asked Questions page. The FAQ page will answer almost all of your
questions. If you do not find the answer you are looking for please
remember to use the search feature. If you have completely read all of the
answers and your question is definitely not answered on the FAQ page
please contact us via email.

Laura Collins

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

I don't want an affiliate site any longer, so take what is owed to the
affiliate account and send me a check for the difference!

----- No. Our automated system ensures no check can be sent out while a
member's affiliate account balance is negative. You will not receive any
payouts for any websites while your affiliate account balance is owing. As
soon as you bring your affiliate account balance up to $0 or higher your
account will be released and the payout of all accrued profits from all of
your websites can be sent to you.

You should also understand that you must fund your affiliate account in
order to generate profits with your Reseller website. As soon as you have
fully funded your affiliate account we can activate customer payments and
you will once again start generating profits with your Reseller website.

Please visit http://70.85.227.179/members/help/faq/ to read our Frequently
Asked Questions page. The FAQ page will answer almost all of your
questions. If you do not find the answer you are looking for please
remember to use the search feature. If you have completely read all of the
answers and your question is definitely not answered on the FAQ page
please contact us via email.

Laura Collins

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

OK, have it your way Laura, if that really is your name. I am beginning
filing fraud complaints.

----- I have charged you $25 for being rude and threatening us. Please be
more polite in your future emails. Our AUTOMATED system will not send you
a check unless your affiliate account is paid. I am not having anything
"my way". The system is automated. There is nothing I can do to change the
situation for you. Please pay your account balance so that you and your
customers can receive your payouts.

Please visit http://70.85.227.179/members/help/faq/ to read our Frequently
Asked Questions page. The FAQ page will answer almost all of your
questions. If you do not find the answer you are looking for please
remember to use the search feature. If you have completely read all of the
answers and your question is definitely not answered on the FAQ page
please contact us via email.

Laura Collins

Former Member2 · Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2005 18:19 Post subject:

bikerg · Forum Member Joined: 20 Oct 2005, 23:59 Posts: 11

http://www.gurugazette.com/archives/2004/05/14/new-section-ask-kathy/

o2ba_CaboPrincess · Guest

I'm not out as much money as Biker but I am out just the same. My payout date was October 30th and I was due to receive about $6,100 to my paypal account. Oct 30th came and went...I've sent e-mails for the past 3 weeks about my account...no response from Mzzz Collins.

I contacted The Planet and gave them all of the IP addresses that this website lists and they've told me they have never had a complaint...of course Biker made one to them prior to me. Makes you wonder.

My Account Balance is only $265 negative. I have asked why and never recieved an answer. I've been nice for the most part. Of course I went to buy the rented website and they gave me a brand new website instead. When I screamed in an e-mail I guess they figured they'd charge pain and suffering. Unfortuantely, this is not in their rules or FAQ's. I've requested, as they said I could, a copy of my guarantee in writing and signed...still nothing.

I've gone to another IP address, another e-mail address and more...still no response.

Yes, this is a scam and I will do whatever I can to shut them down. I finally figured out how they work by putting a shell around another 'legal' site like Match.com. The travel sites go through TravelNow.com who goes through IAN.com. I've e-mailed IAN.com several times - no response.

There is money to be made on the internet....just not with this company. Another person I dealt with has lost more than I have as well. He took a lot of money out of his pocket to get out of it. Me? They won't get one more dime from me.

All I have to say to them is Razz

and if they don't like it...maybe I'll see them in court!

Unbelievable that this can happen. Unbelievable. D

Former Member2 · Posted: Sat 05 Nov 2005 20:21 Post subject:

o2ba_CaboPrincess, I'm sorry to hear that you have fallen victim to this too. I'm even sorrier to hear that ThePlanet seems not to be taking it seriously. I can only give you the same suggestion I gave to biker. Contact your local law enforcement agency and have your friend who has also lost money to do the same, report this as a crime and ask them to do something about the site. ThePlanet may not listen to you but they will listen if they are contacted by the police.